Third Phalange of Thumb

Hi,

The following pics are that of thumbs. Pls ignore the variance in size.
1st pic has the 3rd phalange.
2nd pic doesn't have 3rd phalange. The strong horizontal line present in the 2nd pic is not a divider, but, instead a bar on the 2nd phalange.

My qtn is: What does the presence of a 3rd phalange( Is it called 3rd phalange) on thumb indicate?

Biologically it is labeled as an 'extra crease'. In the smaller lower photo, there is a tiny oblique crease. This being a short angled crease touching 'family line' from inside thumb plus two extra creases.

Normally there is one crease that forms for the distal interphalangeal crease and two creases for the proximal interphalangeal. So these are 'extra creases'.

It's not a 3rd phalange. Phalanges involve sections of bones with joints dividing them.

Okay. So, in the 1st pic, the person has 2 family lines, which are overlapping with each other.
What does this family line indicate? and what are indications if there are 2 of them, which generally is the case as I see.

I would discuss with the hand owner their attitude about commitment and loyalty to family and their preference to live close to family and their influence, or move far away.

Okay. Thanks Patti.

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Okay. Thanks Patti.

I've noticed that people with weaker family lines tend to take a distance from people that try to control their lives or they disagree with. Deeper family lines are on very close knit families.

I have seen conflicting markings on people who avoid one group of people but are very close to another - like in-laws vs. blood relatives. And even sometimes closer to in-laws! That is what I wonder about the 1st example. Do they have a 'family' that isn't exactly related?

Hi Patti,

What markings are the "conflicting markings"?

Yes, I know him. This is his background: He is grown up in a joint family and the whole family strength is around 20-25! His father's elder brother holds the major responsibility of the family and he is bit controlling on this guy's family. Now, this guy and his siblings have finsihed good education and are moved to a far away city for employment( all are in same city and living together). Mother keeps visiting them and going back. However, the father is still in the native and looking after the business.
Effectively, as you said: "They do have a 'family' that isn't exactly related".
I hope, my interpretation of "is not exactly related" is same as you meant. That's why I gave the background.

B.t.w. what does having 2 proximal interphalanges creases indicate, as is the case in 1.
Do they have 2 families? or like a split family at different locations?

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Hi Patti,

What markings are the "conflicting markings"?

Yes, I know him. This is his background: He is grown up in a joint family and the whole family strength is around 20-25! His father's elder brother holds the major responsibility of the family and he is bit controlling on this guy's family. Now, this guy and his siblings have finsihed good education and are moved to a far away city for employment( all are in same city and living together). Mother keeps visiting them and going back. However, the father is still in the native and looking after the business.
Effectively, as you said: "They do have a 'family' that isn't exactly related".
I hope, my interpretation of "is not exactly related" is same as you meant. That's why I gave the background.

B.t.w. what does having 2 proximal interphalanges creases indicate, as is the case in 1.
Do they have 2 families? or like a split family at different locations?

If these creases relate to 'family' then I'd say that cultures can change the meanings.

I tend to read them to reflect a person's attitude toward family. Do they like tight knit families or are they more loners and isolated, is something I read in them.

On this person the lower family lines are broken and chained. This I'd read as not wanting family too involved in their business. The higher up creases (extra creases) are deep and clear which I'd read as very close and bonded to family. That is what I see as conflicting.

Obviously this person seems very committed to his family from what you have said.

Patti wrote:

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Okay. Thanks Patti.

I've noticed that people with weaker family lines tend to take a distance from people that try to control their lives or they disagree with. Deeper family lines are on very close knit families.

I have seen conflicting markings on people who avoid one group of people but are very close to another - like in-laws vs. blood relatives. And even sometimes closer to in-laws! That is what I wonder about the 1st example. Do they have a 'family' that isn't exactly related?

Nice catch Patti

zaobhand wrote:

Patti wrote:

Kiran.Katawa wrote:Okay. Thanks Patti.

I've noticed that people with weaker family lines tend to take a distance from people that try to control their lives or they disagree with. Deeper family lines are on very close knit families.

I have seen conflicting markings on people who avoid one group of people but are very close to another - like in-laws vs. blood relatives. And even sometimes closer to in-laws! That is what I wonder about the 1st example. Do they have a 'family' that isn't exactly related?

Nice catch Patti

It works for Western readings. I'm not sure how it works with Kiran's person.

It seems that the idea of family and extended families working and living together and their working for common support is so very different from the people I am used to reading.

Therefore, I think it must shift in interpretation in another culture.

I would question the person about the idea of sacrificing what they'd like to do in order to support the family and the family business. From the postings I've read, it appears that in the Indian culture all members of the family take on the responsibility of providing what they can. Whereas in Western families the families are more separate units of mom, dad and the kids and although there are family businesses they are less common than people just getting jobs and supporting only themselves or their spouse and kids.

The extra creases form before birth so would not represent a reaction to a situation. But, the family line could show reactions.

Hi Patti,
not all the families are joint families here.
Mostly, everyone is tending towards nuclear families now a days. But, atleast, a family will have Father, Mother, Son-Wife and the Kid living together in single home.

From what you have said about this person, sounds correct: The family line is broken. But, the inner line is clear. So, he runs away from those members who are very much controlling on him. And on the other hand he is closer to his family. Let me check his brother's hands too, who have same reaction regarding family.