How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines?

**kanwarjeets** Fri Oct 08, 2010 6:32 pm

Hi
My question is that does the small parallel line under the mercury finger called relationship lines ,depict number of relationships that a person will have?

In my experiments I have found out that readings from these lines are mostly wrong or way off.Those who have had 4 relationship have only one single line, while one of my friend had a girlfriend but didn't have a single relationship line.

Take my example , I have had no relationships up till now (I am 22 now), but my right hand has three relationship lines and one relationship line is roughly in the teens but I am past my teens. How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines? Questi13

How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines? Questi13

So how one should read them and I have doubts with other lines as well that I have pointed in my hand picture.
Hope to increase my knowledge.
regards
kanwarjeet

**jeanette** Fri Oct 08, 2010 10:17 pm

Hi Kanwarjeets,
I think these lines only show meaningful relationships. Relationships that have registered an effect.. I have two and the only relationship I had was with my husband. He was the boy next door and I was sixteen when we got together. One of my lines is very long and the other quite short, but like you, I find them hard to understand. I keep looking at the other one and wonder who this other affection was and further more the long one is well away from the heart line and below the little finger and I was married when I was 21years old. What can be deduced from this.
Regards,
Jeanette..

**Lynn** Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:10 pm

I don't believe that the relationship lines are accurate with regard to the number of relationships.
examples - my friend on her 3rd marriage has only one relationship line.
An 86 year old lady had 4 relationship lines, yet like Jeanette she married 'the boy next door' who was her first boyfriend age 15, and she never had any relationship with another man. I believe her because she blushed Embarassed

when she confessed her secret that she once went for tea with another boy whilst dating her future husband!

edit sorry kanwarjeets, I have some technical problem -- when I try to enlarge your picture I am not seeing the full hand. Perhaps you could start new topics to address your questions about the other hand features.

**Den** Sat Oct 09, 2010 12:50 am

This feature has had so much "negative press" over the past few years, I don't even look at these lines anymore, too much speculation.

**Lynn** Sat Oct 09, 2010 1:08 am

lovin' your afro Den afro

The only reason I look at these lines is because people ask about them. I agree with you - too much speculation. Thumbs up!

Don't forget that the origins of these lines in traditional palmistry goes back about 600 years. These days we have far more freedom & choices about relationships than they had, same applies to child lines.

**kanwarjeets** Sat Oct 09, 2010 3:37 am

Jeanette,Lynn,Den
Relationship are no longer relevant in today's time, your experiences have helped me cement that these are best used for teasing friends and giving them hope!! lol!

And Jeanette, in your case can we deduce that the relationship becomes stronger or meaningful for different reasons at separate ages , may be with the same person .

Rock on!

kanwarjeet

**jeanette** Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:46 am

Hi Kanwarjeets,
I was amazed to read what you said about could it be the same relationship. That is exactly true and what indeed happened.Thanks.
Jeanette.

**jeanette** Sat Oct 09, 2010 10:53 am

Hi Lynn,
I think Kanwarjeets has solved this, definitely true in my case.I also could not see the hand. All I got was the little finger, but I thought there was something else to do to get it and I didn't know how to do it, so I didn't mention it. However, looking at the little finger I think the fingerprint is a whorl. As you know I am studying fingerprints at the moment, so could you confirm if I am right.
Thanks,
Jeanette.

**kanwarjeets** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:18 am

Hello,
The pic is actually like this and there is no technical fault . I am posting all my pics in this post.

https://2img.net/h/oi38.tinypic.com/bfnxmo.jpg left hand back

https://2img.net/h/oi35.tinypic.com/2w2ocie.jpg left hand front

https://2img.net/h/oi34.tinypic.com/34j9nog.jpg right hand back

https://2img.net/h/oi34.tinypic.com/1zmmkyc.jpg right hand front

Some right hand pics (it focuses on the lines)
angle 1 https://2img.net/h/oi34.tinypic.com/htsas6.jpg

angle 2 https://2img.net/h/oi38.tinypic.com/am37g8.jpg

angle 3 https://2img.net/h/oi37.tinypic.com/2hpu87t.jpg

Thumbs up!

kanwarjeet

**Lynn** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:26 am

Thanks kanwarjeet.

Jeanette - yes it is a whorl. Thumbs up!

**kanwarjeets** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:42 am

hey guys/gals
whats a whorl?

bounce

kanwarjeet

**Lynn** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:46 am

the fingerprint on your right little finger is a whorl.

**Martijn (admin)** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:53 am

kanwarjeets wrote:hey guys/gals
whats a whorl?

kanwarjeet

Hello Kanwarjeets,

I am sure that you will love this pictures... which is featured with the 3 basic fingerprints types ('whorls' are the second most common type after 'loops').

PS. Dear memembers... let's keep this discussion on topic: if anybody has more questions about 'whorls', please create a new top/discussion!

How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines? Fingerprint-patterns-arch-loop-whorl

How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines? Fingerprint-patterns-arch-loop-whorl

**asif amin** Sat Oct 09, 2010 11:58 am

Please also read my posted topic. Martijin you posted wonderful reference.

https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/iiif-dermatoglyphics-fingerprints-f37/psychological-and-diagnostic-significance-of-finger-prints-t249.htm

**Martijn (admin)** Sat Oct 09, 2010 8:09 pm

"How dependable are relationship lines?"

Great question!!

During the past decades the so-called 'marriage lines' (or 'affection lines', 'lines of union', 'nesting lines', etc.) have been recognized as providing unreliable information regarding how many relationships are/were involved with.

Regarding the 'theory', that multiple lines might relate to one and the same relationship / marriage... I am very sceptical about this 'theory'. For, I think this 'theory' presents an element of a "self fullfilling prophecy" (simply because despite that times have changed, for many people it is only natural to live life with one partner in life).

So... how RELIABLE are those lines?

I think there is only one aswer possible: these lines are not reliable at all. The only relevant study (Pagode, 2012) available does suggests that the number of marriage lines correlates with the number of marriages.

EDIT: However the study also indicates these lines are not reliable for individuals, see: marriage line palm reading

Oh...nooo!

... Remember, if a theory only works in a small minority of people, this can easily be adress to 'coincidence' - such example do not really 'proof' that the theory works since in a large majority of people this theory doesn't work at all!).

PS. Sorry Jeanette, I think you've at least slightly misunderstood Kanwarjeets' comment: for, in his first remark he explicitely stated regarding those lines: "... these are best used for teasing friends and giving them hope!!"

sv-b Sat Oct 23, 2010 8:07 pm

Hello friends, Smile

The marriage lines are certainly dependable or reliable if we know to read them by associating with presentation of heart line and it's branches and also with influence line. I have seen a friend who have only one marriage line with longest and straightest heart line with no branches in them. but, being bachlor, he had several sexual relationship . In this case, the official marriage would be one. but, his heart line represent many sexual encounters. At the meanwhile, if the heart line curves and ends beneath the saturn finger associated with presence of several marriage lines indicates 2 or 3 marriages in his life. Again defect of first and second marriage line should be consider. These lines never lies but, human can hide his personal lifes. I recently posting the translation of traditional palmistry work in the appropriate forum. In that 41th verse answers this question well. Then, downward branch of heart line shows the entry of new relationship. again we have to relate it with defects and number of marriage lines in order to conclude the result.

**anu_d** Fri Oct 29, 2010 6:20 pm

kanwarjeets wrote:Hi
My question is that does the small parallel line under the mercury finger called relationship lines ,depict number of relationships that a person will have?

In my experiments I have found out that readings from these lines are mostly wrong or way off.Those who have had 4 relationship have only one single line, while one of my friend had a girlfriend but didn't have a single relationship line.

Take my example , I have had no relationships up till now (I am 22 now), but my right hand has three relationship lines and one relationship line is roughly in the teens but I am past my teens

Relationships do occur at some level if lines are prominently marked...I can see only two and not 3 on your palm.....one of whihc seems to be dropping down to cut the heart-line and denotes troubles.

Timing the lines is harder...I have been trying for 19 years and still can't do it reliably at all especially for minor lines on the mounts.
So it is difficult for me to say whether one of your lines occurs in teens

**pravin kumar** Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:35 pm

[b][i]

Kanwaljeet,

This topic and discussion on relationship line is really fascinating. I have rarely experienced that relationship lines do not represent people of opposite sex coming in your life. I would say if a person is a bachelor throughout his life he won't have relationship lines and got it confirmed on quite a few occasions. Those with number of relationship ines, having only 1 or 2 persons in their life I would say they had secret admirers from the opposite sex (those who did not profess their love or could speak up) and Prominent Mount of Venus will confirm this as also the Heart Line.

In the case of Kanwarjeet his second relationship line will result in marriage or union with opposite sex at the age of 28/29. This I concluded by seeing his palm (The print is not so good but I see a upward line going up from Life Line and an influence line starting parallel to life line at about that age.

Pravin Kumar

**Martijn (admin)** Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:13 pm

pravin kumar wrote:... Those with number of relationship ines, having only 1 or 2 persons in their life [i]I would say they had secret admirers from the opposite sex (those who did not profess their love or could speak up) and Prominent Mount of Venus will confirm this as also the Heart Line.

...

Hello mister Pravin Kumar,

Regarding any theory, I think it is always important to avoid using ideas which basically describe a "self-fullfilling prophecy" (this kind of prophecy always includes an element which can not be 'tested' at all - see the picture below).

I would like to make a recommendation... in my opinion it would be wise to let go the idea that multiple lines can indicate 'secret admirers'... because the word 'secret' clearly suggests that the person will NEVER KNOW the name of his/her secret admirer(s), etc.

This is exactly how a 'self-fulfilling prophecy' works: the element can not be 'tested'... because your theory says that the person will never know!

flower

... I hope you will understand!?

PS. The problem with any theory which includes a self-fulfilling element is... that the self-fulfilling element can ALWAYS be used as an argument to explain those cases where the other elements in theory did not work at all. So, basically, if a theory includes a self-fulfilling element... all other elements of the theory because 'doubtfull' as well!
How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines? 2004-07-05_selffulfillingprophecy_hatch_1200

How dependable / reliable are relationship / marriage lines? 2004-07-05_selffulfillingprophecy_hatch_1200

... in a self-fulfilling prophecy the so-called 'system that works' is typically build on an illusion or invalid idea!

**Lynn** Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:27 pm

Hi Pravin,
Good to see you posting here.

Unfortunately, I have the opposite experience to you! I have rarely found the relationship lines to be accurate! I always quote the two examples from different ends of the spectrum (which kind of 'prove' to me that relationship lines are not always accurate) -
1) my friend on her 3rd marriage who only ever had one relationship line, and
2) the 86 year old who had 4 clear relationship lines but married the 'boy next door' who became her boyfriend age 15 and they were still married. I believe her when she told me she never looked at another man (apart from one time before their marriage she had tea with another boy!).

Regarding your point about 'secret admirers' - I'm not sure why they would show on a person's hand if the person is not aware of this admirer? Surely only things that are in our conscious or subconscious can show on the hand? I agree with Martijn's point that there is no way to substantiate or validate the idea of secret unknown admirers, so we can never know if it is accurate.

Regarding your point that the relationship lines "represent people of opposite sex coming in your life." What about same sex ? Surely if these lines are supposed to represent long term loving relationships, then the same should apply to gay relationships.

**Martijn (admin)** Sun Oct 31, 2010 11:47 pm

(Lynn, thanks for confirming the point that I tried to make... Smile

)

**Lynn** Mon Nov 01, 2010 12:35 am

stalin.v wrote:The marriage lines are certainly dependable or reliable if we know to read them by associating with presentation of heart line and it's branches and also with influence line. I have seen a friend who have only one marriage line with longest and straightest heart line with no branches in them. but, being bachlor, he had several sexual relationship . In this case, the official marriage would be one. but, his heart line represent many sexual encounters.

Sorry stalin, I am a bit confused. If the man was a batchelor, how can the "marriage" line be accurate (if he was never married)? I don't believe these lines show any 'marriage certificate', - are you saying he had a long term relationship living with someone, but without being married? And can you explain how did his heart line represent many sexual encounters? thanks.

Whilst I agree with you that "human can hide his personal lifes." I disagree that "These (relationship/marriage) lines never lies." From my experience I find they are very often not accurate with regard to the number of relationships in a person's life.

**Lynn** Mon Nov 01, 2010 1:16 am

Martijn (admin) wrote:(Lynn, thanks for confirming the point that I tried to make... )

Yes, I agree with your point Martijn.
According to wikipedia, "A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior."

Altho I would normally think of 'self-fullfilling' as a prediction that plants a seed of thought that the person then acts upon and so it becomes true. In this case the 'self-fulfilling' aspect applies to the reader believing that extra lines correspond to secret admirers, then the client also believes to be true. But actually neither the reader nor the client has proof that there is any secret admirer!

Pravin, I hope you share your thoughts about the comments made by me & Martijn? I notice on another thread you have doubts about child lines and sibling lines, which I also have doubts about, similar to my doubts about 'relationship lines'. I appreciate your discussion about these lines Thanks!

**pravin kumar** Mon Nov 01, 2010 5:56 am

[b][i]

Dear Lynn and Martijn,

After this discussion I shall definitely keep my views open to correction when I come across such an instance. This is what I get to learn from you experts over here. As for secret admirers is my way of explaining after I met a number of boys who have professed to have very good relationship with girls from their college days and had exchange of pleasant romantic exchanges even they were married elsewhere and living far apart from each other.

Pravin Kumar

sv-b Mon Nov 01, 2010 6:32 am

Hello lynn, Smile

Predictive palmists tend to predict that bride is from which direction from the possessor's native place, how many kilo-meter distances she is from, and specific details through reading marriage lines.

bachlor, does not mean that he wont never marry in future. and he is only 23 years of age.

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