HANDS & IQ - Guidelines for an intelligence assessment via your hands!

NOTICE: The 'hand index' is defined as: 100 x the quotient of 'hand width' with 'hand length'.

Lynn wrote:Taking this one step at a time.

NOTICE: The 'hand index' is defined as: 100 x the quotient of 'hand width' with 'hand length'.

what does that mean? sorry if I missed it but I didn't find a definition of "quotient" in any of your posts/links. is it hand width divided by hand length (from wrist to tip of middle finger?) x 100?

No problem... I'll explain it once more (though I believe you were already able to measure your 'hand index' a few weeks ago):

Hand index = 100 x ('hand width' dived by 'hand length')

For example: if your 'hand width' = 8 cm, and your 'hand length' = 18 cm... then the 'hand index' becomes:

100 x ( 8 / 18 ) = 44.4

I hope this makes sense now?

Martijn (admin) wrote:
Hand index = 100 x ('hand width' dived by 'hand length')

Martijn (admin) wrote:[color=darkred]
..., while a low 'hand index' is typically seen in more intelligent people.


LOW 'HAND INDEX' & HIGH IQ:

Albert Einstein (German expert in physics) has often been described by experts as a person with an exceptionally high IQ. Interestingly... for a white male he had a rather low 'hand index' (left hand: below 42.5; right hand: below 44.5) - the average for US and UK males appears to be close to 45.

Another example is described in my blog post:
HANDS & IQ – How to recognize a smart hand: 1 – hand shape!

Martijn (admin) wrote:

Lynn wrote:Taking this one step at a time.

NOTICE: The 'hand index' is defined as: 100 x the quotient of 'hand width' with 'hand length'.

what does that mean? sorry if I missed it but I didn't find a definition of "quotient" in any of your posts/links. is it hand width divided by hand length (from wrist to tip of middle finger?) x 100?

No problem... I'll explain it once more (though I believe you were already able to measure your 'hand index' a few weeks ago):

Hand index = 100 x ('hand width' dived by 'hand length')

For example: if your 'hand width' = 8 cm, and your 'hand length' = 18 cm... then the 'hand index' becomes:

100 x ( 8 / 18 ) = 44.4

I hope this makes sense now?

GM(Ghulam MURTAZA) wrote:
Martijn

Just wondering how the index of IS comes to 160 using the given formula (width/length*100)? My calculation is about 97 if palm is based upon.If we base our calculations upon hands ,then it comes to about 56. Will you plz tell me how to calculate?

Are the width/length in question of palms or of hands ? In pictures you have indicated measurement of palm ,whereas hands are mentioned above.

Hi GM,

Hand length = palm length + finger length.

Sorry, I don't understand your words "... how the index of IS comes to 160". Please, you are welcome to explain your question once again.

Regarding your example: 97 or 56, only the number 56 could relate to 'hand index'; 97 is the 'palm index' - though I never mentioned it in this discussion.

By the way, you refered to some pictures of mine, but 'hand index' and 'palm index' are not included at all in pictures where the 'finger length index' is mentioned.




PS. I think you got somewhere confused in the terminology; maybe you are interested to present your measurements for finger length, palm breadth and palm length... then I will demonstrate how to calculate the 'hand index', 'palm index' and 'finger index' from your measurements.

Martijn (admin) wrote:

GM(Ghulam MURTAZA) wrote:
Martijn

Just wondering how the index of IS comes to 160 using the given formula (width/length*100)? My calculation is about 97 if palm is based upon.If we base our calculations upon hands ,then it comes to about 56. Will you plz tell me how to calculate?

Are the width/length in question of palms or of hands ? In pictures you have indicated measurement of palm ,whereas hands are mentioned above.

Hi GM,



Hand length = palm length + finger length.

Sorry, I don't understand your words "... how the index of IS comes to 160". Please, you are welcome to explain your question once again.

Regarding your example: 97 or 56, only the number 56 could relate to 'hand index'; 97 is the 'palm index' - though I never mentioned it in this discussion.

By the way, you refered to some pictures of mine, but 'hand index' and 'palm index' are not included at all in pictures where the 'finger length index' is mentioned.




PS. I think you got somewhere confused in the terminology; maybe you are interested to present your measurements for finger length, palm breadth and palm length... then I will demonstrate how to calculate the 'hand index', 'palm index' and 'finger index' from your measurements.

GM(Ghulam MURTAZA) wrote:

Martijn (admin) wrote:

GM(Ghulam MURTAZA) wrote:
Martijn

Just wondering how the index of IS comes to 160 using the given formula (width/length*100)? My calculation is about 97 if palm is based upon.If we base our calculations upon hands ,then it comes to about 56. Will you plz tell me how to calculate?

Are the width/length in question of palms or of hands ? In pictures you have indicated measurement of palm ,whereas hands are mentioned above.

Hi GM,



Hand length = palm length + finger length.

Sorry, I don't understand your words "... how the index of IS comes to 160". Please, you are welcome to explain your question once again.

Regarding your example: 97 or 56, only the number 56 could relate to 'hand index'; 97 is the 'palm index' - though I never mentioned it in this discussion.

By the way, you refered to some pictures of mine, but 'hand index' and 'palm index' are not included at all in pictures where the 'finger length index' is mentioned.




PS. I think you got somewhere confused in the terminology; maybe you are interested to present your measurements for finger length, palm breadth and palm length... then I will demonstrate how to calculate the 'hand index', 'palm index' and 'finger index' from your measurements.

Martijn ,definitely I am confused how to calculate and relate it to IQ. I referred to Einstein's 160 score. I will appreciate if you further explain all 3 indexes one by one and their relationships with IQ level. I cannot post the pics I was referring to as I have problem in uploading and posting pictures in spite of pass words are the same for
the forum and pictures hosting site,as advised by you.

Aha, you were referring to Einstein's hand! (You had not mentioned his name at all... )

Well, first of all I have only suggested that the 'hand index' gives a clue regarding IQ.

(Additionally, I only mentioned that finger length relative to palm breadth/palm length might provide a clue for higher verbal IQ - relative to performance IQ; so I was not suggesting that 'finger length index' or 'palm index' also provides a clue for higher IQ)

By the way, I hadn't refered to 'palm index' at all... untill you posted your '97' number which you found for palm breadth versus palm length


For Einstein's left hand I found his 'hand index' to be close to 0.42 (in my printed copy of his left hand I found Einstein's hand breadth to be 11.0 cm and his hand length 26.1 cm).

Now, 0.42 is a rather low score for a male (because males usually score above 0.44). So therefore I associated his low 'hand index' with his high IQ

GM, does this answer your questions?


PS. By the way, I would recommend not to use Einstein's right hand print for making measurements - because I recently I found evidence that Einstein's right hand print does not give an accurate impression for Einstein's finger length: in the photos we can see that his finger length is definitely not much shorter than his hand breadth (as suggested by especially his right hand print), see:
https://www.modernhandreadingforum.com/t122-the-hands-of-albert-einstein-person-of-the-20th-century?highlight=Einstein

(In his right hand print his finger length appears to be inaccurate when we compare it to his finger length in photos; so I think we should better not use his right hand print for making measurements)

Martijn (admin) wrote:

Recently I introduced in another discussion the Dermatoglyphics Multiple Intelligence Test (DMIT). In my review I described e.g. that the DMIT product is based on an alternative concept of intelligence, so it should better not be associated with the traditional concept of IQ.

Nevertheless, one could wonder: do hands provide a clue that relates to our IQ?

My short answer would be a simple: 'yes'!

I need more time to describe my longer answer. But yesterday I have written my first episode in a series about this topic (other clues will be described in new episodes):

• HANDS & IQ – How to recognize a smart hand: 1 – hand shape!


THE 'HAND INDEX':

This episode describes how studies have indicated that IQ displays positive correlations with 'body height', but negative correlations with the so-called 'hand index'.

NOTICE: The 'hand index' is defined as: 100 x the quotient of 'hand width' with 'hand length'. The picture below displays how the measure 'hand width' at the metacarpals (a point of reference could be to make the measurement at a point close to the starting point of the life line and the head line). 'Hand length' is measured as the distance between the upper wrist crease and the tip of the middle finger.



HIGH 'HAND INDEX' & LOW IQ:

Mental retardation is usually featured with a high 'hand index' (such as in Down syndrome & fragile X-syndrome), while a low 'hand index' is typically seen in more intelligent people.


LOW 'HAND INDEX' & HIGH IQ:

Albert Einstein (German expert in physics) has often been described by experts as a person with an exceptionally high IQ. Interestingly... for a white male he had a rather low 'hand index' (left hand: below 42.5; right hand: below 44.5) - the average for US and UK males appears to be close to 45.

Another example is described in my blog post:
HANDS & IQ – How to recognize a smart hand: 1 – hand shape!


PS. Larger versions of Einstein's hands are available here:
The hands of Albert Einstein


Albert Einstein's hands:

GM(Ghulam MURTAZA) wrote:

for your input !

Will you please also explain your model (DMIT) which gives more than 160 + scores to this unique figure(Einstein)? How does it work ?

Martijn (admin) wrote:

GM(Ghulam MURTAZA) wrote:

for your input !

Will you please also explain your model (DMIT) which gives more than 160 + scores to this unique figure(Einstein)? How does it work ?

Ahaaaa...! You refered to Einstein's IQ of 160 in the picture below.

Sorry GM, you must have misunderstood that picture completely... because that picture does not relate to DMIT at all, nor to any other aspect of the hand.

It's just a picture that I found on the internet describing Einstein's rather remarkable high IQ, so the number '160' does not relate to his hands at all! By the way, the picture clearly describes:

"Einstein's IQ = 160"

(It doesn't describe Einstein's 'hand index'; sorry, I apologize that it took me a while before I understood where you had found the number '160'... I had assumed that it somehow came from your measurements because you described that it related to the 'hand index', etc. But that problem is solved now!)


PS. Just to avoid any further confusion: GM, please be aware that my hand size measurements should not be associated with DMIT either (because DMIT only relates to fingerprints & dermatoglyphics).


NOTICE: The picture below does not relate to DMIT nor my hand size studies (it only describes Einstein's IQ)